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diaz-balart. our first focus is ferguson, missouri where police are trying to figure out how to calm a situation that is very volatile. another night of violence including the arrests of two journalists covering the story. tear gas clouded the night sky around the st. louis suburb, the sound of sonic cannons and rubber bullets piercing the air yet again. officials say the response set off a response as the protests -- one officer was hit by a brick and broke his ankle. and among last night's arrests, st. louis alderman french has been documenting the situation. we talked to him just moments
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ago. >> i think he's trying to tyke a heavy hand to squash these protests. but they're not going to be able to beat these young people into submission, you're not going to be able to overpower them through guns. and furthermore, which all live together, this is our community, black, white, police, civilian. and through this time of crisis, we should not be implementing wounds that are going to be very hard to heal from. >> there were dozens of reporters caught in the middle. al last night and later you see police in their riot gear taking down their equipment. our own msnbc.com reporter tremaine lee was on the street when the tear gas was fires. >> i have tried -- i can barely breathe, my nose is burning, my eyes are burning. you can't escape it. the further back you go, it
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still hangs in the area. it looks like the police are taking over completely at the end of the street. but again, far down the street the clouds of tear gas engulfing everything. >> twro other reporters, ferguson police still have not released the name of the officer who shot michael brown, but today the chief will meet with the brown family, members of the naacp and department of jugs officials. a moment of silence is planned tonight to honor brown's murder. more details about what is happening, i'm joined by "washington post" reporter wesley lowry. thank you for being back with us this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> you've been reporting for us throughout the week. the story is about the death of michael brown and the volatile situation in ferguson.
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but what happened to you? >> reporter: of course, and one thing i would note up front is that the story is not be the journalists here, but the journalists are in many ways the eyes and ears of the nation. our experience in a lot of ways are what some of this story is about. as i listened to that audio. when tremaine, who i consider a friend, someone i look up to immensely. when i looked at that audio when i got out of jail, it brought tears. my experience is at mcdonald's, i was working with ryan, ryan and i were both there working, during protests, charging our phones, police officers came in and they initially said you should leave. it's going to get hot, you guys should get out of here. we said, we're fine, we know it's going to get hot and that's why we're here. the officers decided they didn't like that, they said we're
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vehicle i evacuating, you have to get out of here. we said fine, which were recording it on video. but something happening at a fast food chain -- an officer took exception of the fact that i was videotaping him and he decided to try to illegally prevent me from doing that. i said i have a right to do this. >> you do have a right to film in public. you were in a private place, but you have the right unless you're told by that private place that you're not allowed to film. >> reporter: and we never were told by any manager or any employee of mcdonald's that you need to get out of here. i had all my stuff out, my notebooks, i was working on some stuff. i've got an armed officer with what can only be described as an assault weapon. i can't help but have some of my
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attention on this gun that's pointed a at me. i was trying to gather up my notebooks, my equipment. i was told to walk so my bag started to slip. i didn't want the officers to say i was trying to stall. as i kept walking, i said officers, my bag is slipping, i need to pause for a minute. that's when they said let's take him, they put me up against the soda machine. all the while stop resisting, stop resisting, as i was yelling to them. you can arrest me, it's fine, they're saying stop resisting. not get paramedics from a man who's saying he's going to die in the back seat. a large african-american man was screaming. we were brought to the jail, where we were processed, we were given our one phone call, and
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th then-they say you guys can go, there's no police report just -- >> so according to them you weren't really arrested, they were detained. >> reporter: the officer on the scene, am i under arrest? yes, you are, trespassing, what am i going to be charged with, trespassing and a litany of other things. he seemed very pleased with him that he's going to be in jail that night. i regret that myself specifically or any of us journalists are having talked about these experiences. the reason why i'm not in a jail cell this morning, is that other reporters saw this happen and "the washington post" reporters were making phone calls. but anyone who was retained
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under these circumstances, are probably still locked up. the assembly men, or the local official was held overnight, he just got out this morning. it's not about me, but we are an anecdote. >> your latest "washington post" article session even before michael brown's slaying in ferguson, racial questions hung over place. the chief of police acknowledged yesterday, a quote under tow play between black and white in ferguson. what were the existing tensions before? >> there were a lot of existing tensions, i talked to someone yesterday, a resident turned to me and said you can find one resident in the community, it's like finding a four leaf clover. you've got a lot of issues here. you have a lieutenant and the
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county police who this year was fired for allegedly telling officers to target minorities so. there's a deep undercurrent of racial tension. there was a rapid my grigs of black residents from st. louis and other areas and what that means is that the police force has many of the white officers from previously. so you have real tension here. in other communities, majority/minority places, like in boston where i have reported, in places where people do not believe the police understand them, you're always going to start at a disadvantage in terms of these relationships, and we're certainly seeing that here. >> thank you for your reporting throughout the week with us, we really appreciate it. i want to welcome on the set, the executive director of dream
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defenders. and i want to start with you, thank you for being was. >> thank you very much. thank you. >> one of the things that when we see something like this happen in missouri, we for example mehere in south florida we have seen this issue for many, many years now. it's not just there, but right now, that is the epicenter. >> right, right. >> how do we deal with this friction, this lack of understanding and transparency? >> i think if we tell the story about ferguson and connected to stories about miami gardens, about miami beach, about l.a., about new york. the interesting thing about this very unfortunate opportunity that we have right, is to talk got the oppression of these people and the reaction of the repression of the occupation of a police force that's been militarized. offensive we can have
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conversations about black, brown and poor, about the systems that are keeping people down. we can really start a movement that has ferguson right now at the help pepicenter. >> one of the real tragedies is that someone has died for us to be having this conversation. and a lot of times, we live as communities surrounded by moats of our own people. one of the things you've zone and you've done it so effectively in the past is talk about how african-americans and latinos and whites have things in common and yet we only speak about these issues when someone dies. >> it's a lot like my family, we don't meet at reunions, we meet eat funerals. black, brown and poor folks of this country have way more than the time companies that are deporting and detaining
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immigrant families are the same companies that benefit from the militarize zigs of police. we're all victims of the the same war. it's the casualties of war that get us together. in the meantime, in between time there's a lot of work that can be done for us to win this together. there's a small group of people making money off this situation right here. and we have got to keep our eyes open and stay vigilant. >> and, jim, we're watching these images, militarized police force, vehicle vehicles, larger weapons. when folks see that kind of response, does it almost provoke people to say, wow, i really have to step up my game because what's coming at me is really heavy stuff. >> that's right, jose, i think police commanders really got a look at, you know, the image they're going to project, and the tactics they're going to use to police this community going
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forward. it's not just about, you know, that night, it's about police in the community going forward. what happens sheer they mixed a tactical officer s.w.a.t. team with riot control. for years in the back, i came on in '74, right after all the civil unrest in the '60s. as we were coming inthen, there was a big die yot my in police tactics between riot quipped police which would handle such as in ferguson. but the tactical police are much more trained. barricaded suspects, armed hostage understand departments, shoot-outs, that's what s. wvw.. and srt -- barricade to protect
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them from throne objects. but when you mix the two, then you get the image, with the officer on top of the bearkat armored vehicle, pointing a rifle at peaceful protesters. that really is a horrible inch imagine. and it's bad for the people to look at the rivals. they need to rethink these tactics. >> and phil, let's talk about images. because there's those images and then there are the images that you've been talking about. >> right. >> about something as simple as rasing your hands, and sometimes that isn't enough. >> it's rarely enough. it's very rarely enough. i think the only thing riling now that can get dees can late people. we talk about people escalating the violence, but the violence was perpetuated initially when you killed a kid in broad daylight. >> that's a fact that we know existed. some will tell you, with that fact while it's being
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investigated, then you have some folks just a handful going in and looting. it gives everybody else a bad name. but when police go home, what do we do? >> at the same time there was purported looting by and anarc. let's talk about the true story of what's going on there. organizations on the ground, obs, the naacp is working there. there are organizations on the ground that are doing very good work. and the people there are mobilizing and engaging in a very positive way. but you can't take away the anger of a child killed in the street. the only way this ends is when the police go home. your protocol isn't working, you did something atrocious, you did something sad, and you need to walk away. give this community the opportunity to grieve. >> thank you both for being was. coming up, thousands of
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the obama administration is weighing its next move in iraq where there's some encouraging news. the increasing threat by islamic militan militant. army green berets say there's thousands of yezidis to escape
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overnight the u.s. conducted it's seventh air drop of food and water, 1.5 million people have been displaced. on wednesday, the u.s. declared the situation in iraq, a level 3 emergency, it's highest level. the move will mean more money and supplies for iraq. let's bring in reuters investigative reporter dade rowe and david cicilini. i want to start with you congressman. what is your reaction to the latest assessment from the pentagon that a rescue mission is far less needed now. >> i think it's very good news, it demonstrates that the actions by the united states worked and that the peshmergas who are a very fierce fighting force can take on the responsibilities they have for securing their sovereignty and their country. we were able to drop humanitarian aid, food, water and medicine, i'll be able to
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push back isis sufficiently to allow them to leave the mountain top. that's very good news. we're sees international partners step up their support. i think it's very good news, i think it doesn't answer the question what is the long-term objective as it relates to this conflict. good news in the short-term. we have not defeated. it's something we need to pay attention to. >> congressman, you have supported the president's decision to support humanitarian -- you have expressed concern of possible mission ---getting sucked back into the conflict. let me read you something from retired colonel peter mansoor. we have a mismatch between our
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goals and our strategy at the present time. the goal eventually is to elimb name is islamic state. >> i think the reality is this has to be viewed in the con text of the last decade. we spent ten years in iraq, we spent $1.4 trillion in this war. so i think people's reluctance to reengage in that war is understandalab understandab understandable. i strongly oppose having boots on the ground. tamtd we need to recognize that isis is a terrorist organization that is committed to harming us and harming the national security interests of the united states. so we have a responsibility to defeat terrorism wherever we find it. the responsibility will ultimately rest with the iraqis in a nicoany new coalition
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government to defeat the terrorist organization on their own soil. but i think the united states and many of our allies have an interest in supporting those efforts because they potentially pose a danger to our own country. and to certainly to our allies and to our national security interests in the region. i don't think anyone, i'm certainly not anxious to get involved in another military conflict. i strongly oppose boots on the ground. i believe the president's actions have given some breathing space to the iraqis to put together a new government that will take on this responsibility. it fundmentally has to be theirs, we have done more than our fair share to bring stability to that region of the world. >> david row how does the president bridge this gap? >> that's the challenge and it's again, this administration can maybe be praised for its actual policy in iraq, taking it slowly. but their communications does seem to be off.
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yesterday the spokesman was saying there would need to be maybe american boots on the ground to rescue the yezidis and now it turns out they're not needed. the fact that the peshmerga, the local forces were able to go in with american air strikes and ease the crisis. along with other local forces, local allies on the ground can work toward positive change in baghdad with a new prime minister. but the administration isn't real really -- >> this gets back to the language the administration chooses to use. i mean, they don't need to make sweeping statementles that ther will be no boots on the ground, they can talk more about a broad strategy of working with local
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forces, local moderates who really do want to battle the islamic state and then american airpower. and they just seem to sometimes make short-term political statements that come back to haunt them later. >> and remembering this group isis, they're in the business of genocide of slaughter, they're not just going to go away because we wish them to. thank you for being with us this morning, we appreciate your time. coming up, a rock star arrival for pope francis in south korea, everyone's heard about the ice bucket challenge, i went into it yesterday in a buy long wall way. there's no reason we can't manufacture in the united states. here at timbuk2, we make more than 70,000 custom bags a year,
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power party. the country will say goodbye to a hero with full military honors. green was shot and killed last week by a uniformed afghan soldier. he's the first u.s. general to be killed in combat since vietnam. this morning the mid east cease-fire is still holding just minutes before it's set to expire. the extension got off to a shaky start when hamas launched several rockets into israel. israel responded by bombing several gaza sites, two sides still in cairo in negotiating a lasting peace deal. brazil is in a national state of mourning after a plane crash killed campos, campos and an aid were on to campaign events when their plane went down in a residential area. bad weather may have caused the crash. campos was one of the top three contenders for president.
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opposition leader lopez has been delayed once again. it's now set to resume august 28. students -- anti-government protests back in february. no cameras, no media, allowed in court for any of the hearings bhearings -- they say this latest delay is proof that lopez cannot get a fair trial in venezuela. meanwhile, he's in prison. . the white house won't say if president obama and hillary clinton actually hugged it out at a party in martha's vineyard last night. but the two sat at the same table and the white house says a good time was had by all. the two sides are downplaying lingering tensions after the president criticized aspects of clinton's foreign policy. clinton was all smiles.
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>> we agreed we are committed to the values and the interests of our security of our country together. we have differing views as any partners and friends might very well have. and i'm proud that i served with him and for him and i'm looking forward to seeing him tonight. >> clinton also called the president on tuesday to help smooth things over. we spent a lot of time on this show talking about the crisis along the border, the recent surge of unaccompanied minors and the families involved and president obama called an you are urgent humanitarian crisis. the leader of an international crime send cat set up peoppeopl people ---a coyote from guatemala talked about working with mexican cartels and also why he does what he does. take a listen.
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>> joining me now is julio who joins us this morning. for so many year s julio you hae spoken to so many like that coyote. those who don't work with the cartels, he says, don't make it and neither do the people who try to go through mexico on their own. how dangerous is this journey? >> this is a very dangerous journey and there are many options, people who believe that their lives, the well-being of
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their families are on the line. they will decide to move to the north, to the u.s. regardless of the dangers, and yes, they will risk being assaulted by ban difficul bandits or dying as they fall from the train, they will risk be assaulted by the group that controls the route to the north since 2007 and has made the trip to the u.s. very, very dangerous for people from central america. >> julio, this coyote who is from guatemala, he lie lives in quality mall la guatemala. the people that he works for just don't make it. so there is a very clear relationship between the drug
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cartels and people being brought into the united states without documents. >> as i said they control these routes to the north. and coyotes are charging for people to bring them to the u.s. they have to pay some money to let them cross the river, since they control the border between texas and the mexican territory. so, yeah, that's true, cartels control the whole situation and even if they kidnap some of these migrants. they will also charge families for the rescue, so it is a very difficult situation for migrants who are putting their lives at risk just to get a better life here in the united states, yeah. >> thank you, friend for being us with this morning. >> thank you very much, jose, have a nice day. >> we'll have more on the president's possible executive
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actions on immigration. as leader of the catholic church, it's also the first papal visit to that country in 25 years. the pontiff opened his five-year visit to foster peace between the two koreas. north korea fired at least three short range rockets into the sea just an hour before the pope arrived. welcome to the continent. the pope scheduled to hold four masses during his visit, including one at the closing ceremonies of asian youth day. here at home, also in the spirit of good deeds, i accepted my telemundo challenge. i did it in honor of my father-in-law who died of lou gehrig's disease. the changes has been taking the nation by storm raising awareness and already raising $2.4 million to fight als this
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ignoring the law, in a way that would be very difficult to defend legally. so that's not an option. >> that was him saying it's not an option to increase docca for the parents of doca kids. >> i think what has changed is that the american -- the american public supports and went home for the august recess without having passed the needed legislation. there's clearly room for the president to use the authority that he has to step in and provide some relief for people who would have benefitted from
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republican leadership had the congress acted. >> former attorney general gonzalez wrote that the president should act deferred deportation of nicaraguans lives in the united states. >> actually our president, our constitutional lawyer president got it right with you jose in a number of other interviews where he said i can't ignore the needs of the united states. the fact that congress didn't pass legislation the president didn't ask for or asked for and did not act on it. our system isn't that the president can just step in and -- the house of representatives acted last week, they passed a bill that actually changed a 2008 law to alleviate the so-called crisis on the
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border. they passed legislation that the president initially supported, if you recall and nothing happened. the house has acted. it hasn't acted the way the president has wanted. but our system isn't one where you can say if the congress doesn't act, i'll act in its place. >> you failed to mention that the house did not -- >> what do you think the debate going on right now in the white house is all about. he said so many times he can't do it. what's the debate going on in the white house, though? >> they definitely are listening to the constitutional sclars, the former to exercise his authority not to create new laws or to change laws, but to use
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his authority to decide who should be a priority for removal and who shoumtd not. as you mentioned, we're coming up on the two-year anniversary, when young people were able to step forward and have their cases reviewed on a case-by-case basis to get that temporary relief from deportation that has been transformative and it has shown that it is -- who are part of the fabric of their communities to be able to come forward and contribute. >> but you're all ignoring a process. laura, since you're concerned about constitutional scholars, you should turn to the leading liberal constitutional scholar of the united states who has opposed the president to do any of this.
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they're charged with enforcing the laws, you change those laws through the congress. >> he has executive action possibility. >> to implement the laws of the united states, the president got it right in the first instance two years ago. this is a seven cynical ploy by white house to do things, trying to energy nice the base in november. that's what's behind this as he did two years ago with deferred action. >> after the break, we take you back to ferguson, new jersmisso. ♪a happy little place and it all starts with you♪ ♪whoa-oh-oh-oh, all this goodness...♪
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now to ferguson, where it's
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9 9 9:47 a.m. classings have been postponed because there's -- thank you michelle for being with us. >> reporter: thank you, jose for having me. >> you've been catering your work to members of the community who are not protesting for example the elderly in some cases the sick, describe the challenges of accomplishing that in this so difficult environment. >> it's very challenging. first of all, we have assembled a team of mental health professionals and medical doctors through a couple of groups, people's health clinic and better family life and one of the things we know about our community is that there's a stigma with mental health just in general, so getting them to come to us is the first challenge, so we knew that in order to meet that challenge, we had to go to them. we have been doing just that, we have a mobile health unit that
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we have stationed right next to the apartment complex, and we ha have -- >> based on a interviiew we jus saw, a few bad apples can spoil the bunch. can the few overcome those few bad apples? >> we plan to, the good will overcome. a lot of people coming in to do the damage are not from this community. i live in the neighboring jennings community, we have all been affected by what's going on. your day to day life has changed, you can't go to the stores we want to anymore. and some of the stores, as you saw with quick trip, we can't use those stores anymore. there's a ying mother who has no car, she walks to quick trip for her milk.
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we're trying to mobilize the community to bring those things in so these residents who are not mobile can have those things they need for their day to stay operations. can i say this, jose? we are also having a peace fest on the 24th of this month and we're bringing tracey martin who is trayvon martin and the mother and father of michael brown together to try to bring peace and healing, we're going to have several social service agencies to bring information to the -- we know that right now, not only the rez dengtds are suffering, but we know the cops are serving too. and some mental health issues as well. so they can learn to deescalate it and maybe move back a little bit. >> we'll have more from ferguson in a second.
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we are expecting governor jay nixon today in ferguson, missouri and that's where a professor from the university of connecticut joins us this morning. you were there last night. is there any way for police to restore trust to a large part of the community? >> i think that would be very difficult to be honest. what i saw last night was very much seen to be calibrated toward intimidation, not something that was something that was designed for law and order. the one thing that people were saying yesterday that was, you know, a sticking point about why there isn't trust in the police handling of the situation now.
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what koumtd be done to mitt gate that chasm. >> i think that for one, i think that the police escalated matters by bringing out what looked like, you know, very high level military equipment and such that they didn't look so much like police as a militia. i think that perhaps that a later touch will be better. the thing that people really want is to know who the officer is, because not simply for the matter of seeking vengeance. but what i have heard from people in? community is they believe the cloak of anonymity facilitates a certain type of collusion that people may be collaborating to get a story straight or that the
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good morning, everyone, i'm alex witt in for tamron hall. and this is news nation. we begin with the chaos unraveling in the suburb of ferguson, missouri which overnight looked more like a war zone, all stemming from the death of michael brown. first here's the latest. the local school district has cancelled school today and tomorrow citing unsafe
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conditions. missouri's governor jay nixon has cancelled his planned appearances today instead to visit ferguson for the first time since the protest began. he will mete with members of the clergy and local leaders about one hour from now. nixon addressed the situation on twitter saying the situation in ferguson does not represent who we are. we must keep the peace by safeguarding citizens and the press. faced off with protesters for a fourth night. at least 16 people were arrested and two officers were injured. among the arrests were st. louis alouis -- laurie's cell phone video -- as they work in the a nearby mcdonald's. he discussed the confrontation, appearing on

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